„idem“ – Versionsunterschied

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i-dem lat. "ist sich"; "selbst, dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. id, ea, is "ist" + alat. em "-isch"

Von uital. *izdim; äquivalent zu „er“ + uital. *-im (hervorhebende Markierung) (daher Sabellic *-om, Oscan 𐌝𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (ísídum), 𐌄𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (esídum)), von uig. *im (woher auch alat. im, em), Akkusativ Singular von *éy (also stammen beide Teile aus derselben Quelle). Das -s- ging verloren und das i- wurde durch kompensatorische Verlängerung verlängert.

Wenn is' Ablativfälle eōd, eād zu eō, eā, idems wurden, wurden ablative wahre Formen eōd-em, eād-em als eō-dem, eā-dem interpretiert. Der neutrale Nominativ Singular id-em ist natürlich und ergibt früher emem (= später eundem). Der neue Marker -dem diente dann zur Bildung von totidem, tantumdem, ibīdem usw. Vergleiche tam-en mit seinem späteren Dublett: tan-dem (← *tam-dem).

Aussprache

(Classical) IPA^(key): /ˈiː.dem/, [ˈiːd̪ɛ̃ˑ]
(modern Italianate Ecclesiastical) IPA^(key): /ˈi.dem/, [ˈiːd̪em]

Pronomen

īdem (feminin eadem, Neutrum idem); Demonstrativpronomen (mit m optional → n in Komposita) mit einem nicht deklinierbaren Teil

das Gleiche

Declension

Irregular declension. Similar to the declension of is, ea, id. Demonstrative pronoun (with m optionally → n in compounds) with an indeclinable portion.

Case / Gender	Masculine	Feminine	Neuter	Masculine	Feminine	Neuter
Number	Singular			Plural
Nominative	īdem	eadem	idem	īdem¹	eaedem	eadem
Genitive	eiusdem ejusdem			eōrundem eōrumdem eundem eumdem	eārundem eārumdem	eōrundem eōrumdem eundem eumdem
Dative	eīdem² e͡idem ēīdem	eīdem² e͡idem ēīdem eaedem	eīdem² e͡idem ēīdem	eīsdem¹ iīsdem īsdem	eīsdem¹ iīsdem īsdem eābusdem	eīsdem¹ iīsdem īsdem
Accusative	eundem eumdem	eandem eamdem	idem	eōsdem	eāsdem	eadem
Ablative	eōdem	eādem	eōdem	eīsdem¹ iīsdem īsdem

¹The nom./dat./abl. plural forms regularly developed into a monosyllable /iː(s)/, with later remodelling - compare the etymology of deus. This /iː/ was normally spelled as EI during and as II after the Republic; a disyllabic iī, spelled II, Iꟾ, appears in Silver Age poetry, while disyllabic eīs is only post-Classical. Other spellings include EEI(S), EIEI(S), IEI(S).
²The dat. singular is found spelled EIEI (here represented as ēī) and scanned as two longs in Plautus, but also as a monosyllable. The latter is its normal scansion in Classical. Other spellings include EEI, IEI.

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-<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth">id + em | "ist-sich", "dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. ''id, ea, is&nbsp;''&nbsp;"ist" + alat. <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">im</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">em, </em>dt.&nbsp;"-isch"</span></span>
+[[i-]][[dem]]  [[Sprachstufe::lat.]] "ist sich"; "selbst, dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. ''id, ea, is'' "ist" + alat. [[em]] "-isch"
+Von uital. *izdim; äquivalent zu „er“ + uital. *-im (hervorhebende Markierung) (daher Sabellic *-om, Oscan 𐌝𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (ísídum), 𐌄𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (esídum)), von uig. *im (woher auch alat. im, em), Akkusativ Singular von *[[éy]] (also stammen beide Teile aus derselben Quelle). Das -s- ging verloren und das i- wurde durch kompensatorische Verlängerung verlängert.
+Wenn [[is'|is]]' Ablativfälle ''eōd'', ''eād'' zu ''eō'', ''eā'', ''idems'' wurden, wurden ablative wahre Formen eōd-em, eād-em als eō-dem, eā-dem interpretiert. Der neutrale Nominativ Singular id-em ist natürlich und ergibt früher emem (= später eundem). Der neue Marker -dem diente dann zur Bildung von totidem, tantumdem, ibīdem usw. Vergleiche [[tamen|tam-en]] mit seinem späteren Dublett: [[tandem|tan-dem]] (← *tam-dem).
+Aussprache
+*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[[wikipedia:Classical_Latin|Classical]]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [[wikt:Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet|IPA]]<sup>([[wikt:Appendix:Latin_pronunciation|key]])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈiː.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪ɛ̃ˑ]</span>'''
+*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_phonology_and_orthography#Ecclesiastical_pronunciation modern Italianate Ecclesiastical]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA]<sup>([https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_pronunciation key])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈi.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪em]</span>'''
+Pronomen
+īdem (feminin eadem, Neutrum idem); Demonstrativpronomen (mit m optional → n in Komposita) mit einem nicht deklinierbaren Teil
+# das Gleiche
+==== <span id="Declension">Declension</span> ====
+<p>Irregular declension. Similar to the declension of <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Latin is, ea, id]</em>. [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#demonstrative Demonstrative] pronoun (with ''m'' optionally → ''n'' in compounds) with an [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#indeclinable indeclinable] portion.</p>
+{| class="prettytable inflection-table inflection-table-la"
+|-
+! Number
+! colspan="3" | Singular
+| rowspan="2" |
+! colspan="3" | Plural
+|-
+! Case / Gender
+! Masculine
+! Feminine
+! Neuter
+! Masculine
+! Feminine
+! Neuter
+|-
+! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nominative_case Nominative]
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">īdem</strong></span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">idem</strong></span>
+| rowspan="5" |
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">īdem</strong></span><sup>1</sup>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eaedem#Latin eaedem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</span>
+|-
+! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/genitive_case Genitive]
+| colspan="3" align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|s|;|gen|f|s|;|gen|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eiusdem#Latin eiusdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|s|;|gen|f|s|;|gen|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ejusdem#Latin ejusdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorundem#Latin eōrundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorumdem#Latin eōrumdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eundem#Latin eundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eumdem#Latin eumdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/earundem#Latin eārundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/earumdem#Latin eārumdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorundem#Latin eōrundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorumdem#Latin eōrumdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eundem#Latin eundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eumdem#Latin eumdem]</span>
+|-
+! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dative_case Dative]
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin eīdem]</span><sup>2</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin e͡idem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin ēīdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin eīdem]</span><sup>2</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin e͡idem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin ēīdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eaedem#Latin eaedem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin eīdem]</span><sup>2</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin e͡idem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin ēīdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=eabusdem&action=edit&redlink=1 eābusdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span>
+|-
+! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/accusative_case Accusative]
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eundem#Latin eundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eumdem#Latin eumdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eandem#Latin eandem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eamdem#Latin eamdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">idem</strong></span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eosdem#Latin eōsdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/easdem#Latin eāsdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</span>
+|-
+! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ablative_case Ablative]
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eodem#Latin eōdem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eādem]</span>
+| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eodem#Latin eōdem]</span>
+| colspan="3" align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|p|;|abl|f|p|;|abl|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|p|;|abl|f|p|;|abl|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|p|;|abl|f|p|;|abl|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span>
+|}
+<p><sup>1</sup>The nom./dat./abl. plural forms regularly developed into a monosyllable /iː(s)/, with later remodelling - compare the etymology of [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/deus deus]. This /iː/ was normally spelled as <small>EI</small> during and as <small>II</small> after the Republic; a disyllabic ''iī'', spelled <small>II, Iꟾ</small>, appears in Silver Age poetry, while disyllabic ''eīs'' is only post-Classical. Other spellings include <small>EEI(S), EIEI(S), IEI(S)</small>.<br><sup>2</sup>The dat. singular is found spelled <small>EIEI</small> (here represented as ''ēī'') and scanned as two longs in Plautus, but also as a monosyllable. The latter is its normal scansion in Classical. Other spellings include <small>EEI, IEI</small>.</p>

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Declension