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<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth">id- + -em ? | i- + [[lat./-dem|-dem]] ? | "ist-sich", "dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. ''id, ea, is&nbsp;''&nbsp;"ist" + alat. <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">im</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">em, </em>dt.&nbsp;"-isch"</span></span>
<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth">id- + -em ? | i- + [[lat./-dem|-dem]] ? | "ist-sich", "dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. ''id, ea, is&nbsp;''&nbsp;"ist" + alat. <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">im</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">em, </em>dt.&nbsp;"-isch"</span></span>
'''
<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth"><span ></span></span></span>'''<p>From <span class="etyl">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Italic_language Proto-Italic]</span> <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-pro">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Reconstruction:Proto-Italic/izdim&action=edit&redlink=1 *izdim]</em>; equivalent to <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Latin is]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="mention-gloss-double-quote">“</span><span class="mention-gloss">he</span><span class="mention-gloss-double-quote">”</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span> + <span class="etyl">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Italic_language Proto-Italic]</span> <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-pro">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Reconstruction:Proto-Italic/-im&action=edit&redlink=1 *-im]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="ann-pos">emphatic marker</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span> (whence Sabellic ''*-om'', Oscan <em class="Ital mention" lang="osc">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%90%8C%9D%F0%90%8C%94%F0%90%8C%9D%F0%90%8C%83%F0%90%8C%96%F0%90%8C%8C&action=edit&redlink=1 𐌝𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="mention-tr tr Latn" lang="osc-Latn">ísídum</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span>, <em class="Ital mention" lang="osc">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%90%8C%84%F0%90%8C%94%F0%90%8C%9D%F0%90%8C%83%F0%90%8C%96%F0%90%8C%8C&action=edit&redlink=1 𐌄𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="mention-tr tr Latn" lang="osc-Latn">esídum</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span>), from <span class="etyl">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language Proto-Indo-European]</span> <em class="Latn mention" lang="ine-pro">*im</em> (whence also Old Latin <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/im#Latin im]</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/em#Latin em]</em>), accusative singular of <em class="Latn mention" lang="ine-pro">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/%C3%A9y *éy]</em> (so both parts are from the same source). The ''s'' was lost and the ''i'' lengthened by [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/compensatory_lengthening compensatory lengthening].<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/idem#cite_note-3 [2]]</sup></p><p>When <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Latin is]</em>' ablative cases ''eōd'', ''eād'' became ''eō'', ''eā'', ''idem'''s ablative true forms ''eōd-em'', ''eād-em'' were interpreted as ''eō-dem'', ''eā-dem''. The neuter nominative singular ''id-em'' is natural and gives earlier ''emem'' (= later ''eundem''). The new marker ''-dem'' then served to create <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/totidem#Latin totidem]</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tantumdem#Latin tantumdem]</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ibidem#Latin ibīdem]</em>, etc. Compare <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tamen#Latin tam-en]</em> with its later doublet: <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tandem#Latin tan-dem]</em> (← *''tam-dem'').</p>
=== <span id="Pronunciation_6">Pronunciation</span> ===
'''
<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth"><span ></span></span></span>'''
*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Latin Classical]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA]<sup>([https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_pronunciation key])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈiː.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪ɛ̃ˑ]</span>'''
*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_phonology_and_orthography#Ecclesiastical_pronunciation modern Italianate Ecclesiastical]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA]<sup>([https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_pronunciation key])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈi.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪em]</span>'''
=== <span id="Pronoun_4">Pronoun</span> ===
<p><span class="headword-line"><strong class="Latn headword" lang="la">īdem</strong> (''feminine'' <strong class="Latn" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</strong>, ''neuter'' <strong class="Latn" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">idem</strong></strong>)</span>; ''[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#demonstrative demonstrative] pronoun (with ''m'' optionally → ''n'' in compounds) with an [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#indeclinable indeclinable] portion''</p>
#the [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/same#English same] <span class="HQToggle">[ quotations ▼]</span>
==== <span id="Declension">Declension</span> ====
<p>Irregular declension. Similar to the declension of <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Latin is, ea, id]</em>. [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#demonstrative Demonstrative] pronoun (with ''m'' optionally → ''n'' in compounds) with an [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#indeclinable indeclinable] portion.</p>
{| class="prettytable inflection-table inflection-table-la"
|-
! Number
! colspan="3" | Singular
| rowspan="2" |
! colspan="3" | Plural
|-
! Case / Gender
! Masculine
! Feminine
! Neuter
! Masculine
! Feminine
! Neuter
|-
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nominative_case Nominative]
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">īdem</strong></span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">idem</strong></span>
| rowspan="5" |
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">īdem</strong></span><sup>1</sup>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eaedem#Latin eaedem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</span>
|-
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/genitive_case Genitive]
| colspan="3" align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|s|;|gen|f|s|;|gen|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eiusdem#Latin eiusdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|s|;|gen|f|s|;|gen|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ejusdem#Latin ejusdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorundem#Latin eōrundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorumdem#Latin eōrumdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eundem#Latin eundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eumdem#Latin eumdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/earundem#Latin eārundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/earumdem#Latin eārumdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorundem#Latin eōrundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorumdem#Latin eōrumdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eundem#Latin eundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eumdem#Latin eumdem]</span>
|-
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dative_case Dative]
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin eīdem]</span><sup>2</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin e͡idem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin ēīdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin eīdem]</span><sup>2</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin e͡idem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin ēīdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eaedem#Latin eaedem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin eīdem]</span><sup>2</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin e͡idem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin ēīdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=eabusdem&action=edit&redlink=1 eābusdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span>
|-
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/accusative_case Accusative]
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eundem#Latin eundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eumdem#Latin eumdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eandem#Latin eandem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eamdem#Latin eamdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">idem</strong></span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eosdem#Latin eōsdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/easdem#Latin eāsdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</span>
|-
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ablative_case Ablative]
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eodem#Latin eōdem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eādem]</span>
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eodem#Latin eōdem]</span>
| colspan="3" align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|p|;|abl|f|p|;|abl|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|p|;|abl|f|p|;|abl|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|p|;|abl|f|p|;|abl|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span>
|}
<p><sup>1</sup>The nom./dat./abl. plural forms regularly developed into a monosyllable /iː(s)/, with later remodelling - compare the etymology of [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/deus deus]. This /iː/ was normally spelled as <small>EI</small> during and as <small>II</small> after the Republic; a disyllabic ''iī'', spelled <small>II, Iꟾ</small>, appears in Silver Age poetry, while disyllabic ''eīs'' is only post-Classical. Other spellings include <small>EEI(S), EIEI(S), IEI(S)</small>.<br><sup>2</sup>The dat. singular is found spelled <small>EIEI</small> (here represented as ''ēī'') and scanned as two longs in Plautus, but also as a monosyllable. The latter is its normal scansion in Classical. Other spellings include <small>EEI, IEI</small>.</p>

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id- + -em ? | i- + -dem ? | "ist-sich", "dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. id, ea, is  "ist" + alat. im, em, dt. "-isch"

From Proto-Italic *izdim; equivalent to is (“he”) + Proto-Italic *-im (emphatic marker) (whence Sabellic *-om, Oscan 𐌝𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (ísídum), 𐌄𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (esídum)), from Proto-Indo-European *im (whence also Old Latin im, em), accusative singular of *éy (so both parts are from the same source). The s was lost and the i lengthened by compensatory lengthening.[2]

When is' ablative cases eōd, eād became eō, eā, idems ablative true forms eōd-em, eād-em were interpreted as eō-dem, eā-dem. The neuter nominative singular id-em is natural and gives earlier emem (= later eundem). The new marker -dem then served to create totidem, tantumdem, ibīdem, etc. Compare tam-en with its later doublet: tan-dem (← *tam-dem).

Pronunciation

Pronoun

īdem (feminine eadem, neuter idem); demonstrative pronoun (with m optionally → n in compounds) with an indeclinable portion

  1. the same [ quotations ▼]

Declension

Irregular declension. Similar to the declension of is, ea, id. Demonstrative pronoun (with m optionally → n in compounds) with an indeclinable portion.

Number Singular Plural
Case / Gender Masculine Feminine Neuter Masculine Feminine Neuter
Nominative īdem eadem idem īdem1 eaedem eadem
Genitive eiusdem
ejusdem
eōrundem
eōrumdem
eundem
eumdem
eārundem
eārumdem
eōrundem
eōrumdem
eundem
eumdem
Dative eīdem2
e͡idem
ēīdem
eīdem2
e͡idem
ēīdem
eaedem
eīdem2
e͡idem
ēīdem
eīsdem1
iīsdem
īsdem
eīsdem1
iīsdem
īsdem
eābusdem
eīsdem1
iīsdem
īsdem
Accusative eundem
eumdem
eandem
eamdem
idem eōsdem eāsdem eadem
Ablative eōdem eādem eōdem eīsdem1
iīsdem
īsdem

1The nom./dat./abl. plural forms regularly developed into a monosyllable /iː(s)/, with later remodelling - compare the etymology of deus. This /iː/ was normally spelled as EI during and as II after the Republic; a disyllabic iī, spelled II, Iꟾ, appears in Silver Age poetry, while disyllabic eīs is only post-Classical. Other spellings include EEI(S), EIEI(S), IEI(S).
2The dat. singular is found spelled EIEI (here represented as ēī) and scanned as two longs in Plautus, but also as a monosyllable. The latter is its normal scansion in Classical. Other spellings include EEI, IEI.