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<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth">id- + -em ? | i- + [[lat./-dem|-dem]] ? | "ist-sich", "dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. ''id, ea, is '' "ist" + alat. <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">im</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">em, </em>dt. "-isch"</span></span> | <span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth">id- + -em ? | i- + [[lat./-dem|-dem]] ? | "ist-sich", "dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. ''id, ea, is '' "ist" + alat. <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">im</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">em, </em>dt. "-isch"</span></span> | ||
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<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth"><span ></span></span></span>'''<p>From <span class="etyl">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Italic_language Proto-Italic]</span> <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-pro">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Reconstruction:Proto-Italic/izdim&action=edit&redlink=1 *izdim]</em>; equivalent to <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Latin is]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="mention-gloss-double-quote">“</span><span class="mention-gloss">he</span><span class="mention-gloss-double-quote">”</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span> + <span class="etyl">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Italic_language Proto-Italic]</span> <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-pro">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Reconstruction:Proto-Italic/-im&action=edit&redlink=1 *-im]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="ann-pos">emphatic marker</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span> (whence Sabellic ''*-om'', Oscan <em class="Ital mention" lang="osc">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%90%8C%9D%F0%90%8C%94%F0%90%8C%9D%F0%90%8C%83%F0%90%8C%96%F0%90%8C%8C&action=edit&redlink=1 𐌝𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="mention-tr tr Latn" lang="osc-Latn">ísídum</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span>, <em class="Ital mention" lang="osc">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%90%8C%84%F0%90%8C%94%F0%90%8C%9D%F0%90%8C%83%F0%90%8C%96%F0%90%8C%8C&action=edit&redlink=1 𐌄𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="mention-tr tr Latn" lang="osc-Latn">esídum</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span>), from <span class="etyl">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language Proto-Indo-European]</span> <em class="Latn mention" lang="ine-pro">*im</em> (whence also Old Latin <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/im#Latin im]</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/em#Latin em]</em>), accusative singular of <em class="Latn mention" lang="ine-pro">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/%C3%A9y *éy]</em> (so both parts are from the same source). The ''s'' was lost and the ''i'' lengthened by [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/compensatory_lengthening compensatory lengthening].<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/idem#cite_note-3 [2]]</sup></p><p>When <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Latin is]</em>' ablative cases ''eōd'', ''eād'' became ''eō'', ''eā'', ''idem'''s ablative true forms ''eōd-em'', ''eād-em'' were interpreted as ''eō-dem'', ''eā-dem''. The neuter nominative singular ''id-em'' is natural and gives earlier ''emem'' (= later ''eundem''). The new marker ''-dem'' then served to create <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/totidem#Latin totidem]</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tantumdem#Latin tantumdem]</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ibidem#Latin ibīdem]</em>, etc. Compare <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tamen#Latin tam-en]</em> with its later doublet: <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tandem#Latin tan-dem]</em> (← *''tam-dem'').</p> | |||
=== <span id="Pronunciation_6">Pronunciation</span> === | |||
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<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth"><span ></span></span></span>''' | |||
*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Latin Classical]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA]<sup>([https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_pronunciation key])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈiː.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪ɛ̃ˑ]</span>''' | |||
*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_phonology_and_orthography#Ecclesiastical_pronunciation modern Italianate Ecclesiastical]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA]<sup>([https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_pronunciation key])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈi.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪em]</span>''' | |||
=== <span id="Pronoun_4">Pronoun</span> === | |||
<p><span class="headword-line"><strong class="Latn headword" lang="la">īdem</strong> (''feminine'' <strong class="Latn" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</strong>, ''neuter'' <strong class="Latn" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">idem</strong></strong>)</span>; ''[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#demonstrative demonstrative] pronoun (with ''m'' optionally → ''n'' in compounds) with an [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#indeclinable indeclinable] portion''</p> | |||
#the [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/same#English same] <span class="HQToggle">[ quotations ▼]</span> | |||
==== <span id="Declension">Declension</span> ==== | |||
<p>Irregular declension. Similar to the declension of <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Latin is, ea, id]</em>. [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#demonstrative Demonstrative] pronoun (with ''m'' optionally → ''n'' in compounds) with an [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#indeclinable indeclinable] portion.</p> | |||
{| class="prettytable inflection-table inflection-table-la" | |||
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! Number | |||
! colspan="3" | Singular | |||
| rowspan="2" | | |||
! colspan="3" | Plural | |||
|- | |||
! Case / Gender | |||
! Masculine | |||
! Feminine | |||
! Neuter | |||
! Masculine | |||
! Feminine | |||
! Neuter | |||
|- | |||
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nominative_case Nominative] | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">īdem</strong></span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">idem</strong></span> | |||
| rowspan="5" | | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">īdem</strong></span><sup>1</sup> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eaedem#Latin eaedem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la nom|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</span> | |||
|- | |||
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/genitive_case Genitive] | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|s|;|gen|f|s|;|gen|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eiusdem#Latin eiusdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|s|;|gen|f|s|;|gen|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ejusdem#Latin ejusdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorundem#Latin eōrundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorumdem#Latin eōrumdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eundem#Latin eundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eumdem#Latin eumdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/earundem#Latin eārundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/earumdem#Latin eārumdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorundem#Latin eōrundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eorumdem#Latin eōrumdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eundem#Latin eundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la gen|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eumdem#Latin eumdem]</span> | |||
|- | |||
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dative_case Dative] | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin eīdem]</span><sup>2</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin e͡idem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin ēīdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin eīdem]</span><sup>2</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin e͡idem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin ēīdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eaedem#Latin eaedem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin eīdem]</span><sup>2</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin e͡idem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eidem#Latin ēīdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=eabusdem&action=edit&redlink=1 eābusdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la dat|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span> | |||
|- | |||
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/accusative_case Accusative] | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eundem#Latin eundem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eumdem#Latin eumdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eandem#Latin eandem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eamdem#Latin eamdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">idem</strong></span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|m|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eosdem#Latin eōsdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|f|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/easdem#Latin eāsdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la acc|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</span> | |||
|- | |||
! [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ablative_case Ablative] | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eodem#Latin eōdem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|f|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eādem]</span> | |||
| align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|n|s-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eodem#Latin eōdem]</span> | |||
| colspan="3" align="center" | <span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|p|;|abl|f|p|;|abl|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eisdem#Latin eīsdem]</span><sup>1</sup><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|p|;|abl|f|p|;|abl|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/iisdem#Latin iīsdem]</span><br><span class="Latn form-of lang-la abl|m|p|;|abl|f|p|;|abl|n|p-form-of origin-īdem" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/isdem#Latin īsdem]</span> | |||
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<p><sup>1</sup>The nom./dat./abl. plural forms regularly developed into a monosyllable /iː(s)/, with later remodelling - compare the etymology of [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/deus deus]. This /iː/ was normally spelled as <small>EI</small> during and as <small>II</small> after the Republic; a disyllabic ''iī'', spelled <small>II, Iꟾ</small>, appears in Silver Age poetry, while disyllabic ''eīs'' is only post-Classical. Other spellings include <small>EEI(S), EIEI(S), IEI(S)</small>.<br><sup>2</sup>The dat. singular is found spelled <small>EIEI</small> (here represented as ''ēī'') and scanned as two longs in Plautus, but also as a monosyllable. The latter is its normal scansion in Classical. Other spellings include <small>EEI, IEI</small>.</p> | |||
Version vom 8. März 2024, 11:38 Uhr
id- + -em ? | i- + -dem ? | "ist-sich", "dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. id, ea, is "ist" + alat. im, em, dt. "-isch"
From Proto-Italic *izdim; equivalent to is (“he”) + Proto-Italic *-im (emphatic marker) (whence Sabellic *-om, Oscan 𐌝𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (ísídum), 𐌄𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (esídum)), from Proto-Indo-European *im (whence also Old Latin im, em), accusative singular of *éy (so both parts are from the same source). The s was lost and the i lengthened by compensatory lengthening.[2]
When is' ablative cases eōd, eād became eō, eā, idems ablative true forms eōd-em, eād-em were interpreted as eō-dem, eā-dem. The neuter nominative singular id-em is natural and gives earlier emem (= later eundem). The new marker -dem then served to create totidem, tantumdem, ibīdem, etc. Compare tam-en with its later doublet: tan-dem (← *tam-dem).
Pronunciation
- (Classical) IPA(key): /ˈiː.dem/, [ˈiːd̪ɛ̃ˑ]
- (modern Italianate Ecclesiastical) IPA(key): /ˈi.dem/, [ˈiːd̪em]
Pronoun
īdem (feminine eadem, neuter idem); demonstrative pronoun (with m optionally → n in compounds) with an indeclinable portion
- the same [ quotations ▼]
Declension
Irregular declension. Similar to the declension of is, ea, id. Demonstrative pronoun (with m optionally → n in compounds) with an indeclinable portion.
| Number | Singular | Plural | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Case / Gender | Masculine | Feminine | Neuter | Masculine | Feminine | Neuter | |
| Nominative | īdem | eadem | idem | īdem1 | eaedem | eadem | |
| Genitive | eiusdem ejusdem |
eōrundem eōrumdem eundem eumdem |
eārundem eārumdem |
eōrundem eōrumdem eundem eumdem | |||
| Dative | eīdem2 e͡idem ēīdem |
eīdem2 e͡idem ēīdem eaedem |
eīdem2 e͡idem ēīdem |
eīsdem1 iīsdem īsdem |
eīsdem1 iīsdem īsdem eābusdem |
eīsdem1 iīsdem īsdem | |
| Accusative | eundem eumdem |
eandem eamdem |
idem | eōsdem | eāsdem | eadem | |
| Ablative | eōdem | eādem | eōdem | eīsdem1 iīsdem īsdem | |||
1The nom./dat./abl. plural forms regularly developed into a monosyllable /iː(s)/, with later remodelling - compare the etymology of deus. This /iː/ was normally spelled as EI during and as II after the Republic; a disyllabic iī, spelled II, Iꟾ, appears in Silver Age poetry, while disyllabic eīs is only post-Classical. Other spellings include EEI(S), EIEI(S), IEI(S).
2The dat. singular is found spelled EIEI (here represented as ēī) and scanned as two longs in Plautus, but also as a monosyllable. The latter is its normal scansion in Classical. Other spellings include EEI, IEI.