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<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth">id- + -em ? | i- + [[lat./-dem|-dem]] ? | "ist-sich", "dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. ''id, ea, is&nbsp;''&nbsp;"ist" + alat. <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">im</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">em, </em>dt.&nbsp;"-isch"</span></span>
<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth">[[i-]][[lat./-dem|-dem]]</span></span> {{lat.}} <span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth">"ist sich"; "selbst, dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. ''id, ea, is'' "ist" + alat. <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">im</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-ola">em, </em>dt- "-isch"</span></span>


'''
Von uital. *izdim; äquivalent zu „er“ + uital. *-im (hervorhebende Markierung) (daher Sabellic *-om, Oscan 𐌝𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (ísídum), 𐌄𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (esídum)), von uig. *im (woher auch alat. im, em), Akkusativ Singular von *[[éy]] (also stammen beide Teile aus derselben Quelle). Das -s- ging verloren und das i- wurde durch kompensatorische Verlängerung verlängert.
<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth"><span ></span></span></span>'''<p>From <span class="etyl">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Italic_language Proto-Italic]</span> <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-pro">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Reconstruction:Proto-Italic/izdim&action=edit&redlink=1 *izdim]</em>; equivalent to <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Latin is]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="mention-gloss-double-quote">“</span><span class="mention-gloss">he</span><span class="mention-gloss-double-quote">”</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span> + <span class="etyl">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Italic_language Proto-Italic]</span> <em class="Latn mention" lang="itc-pro">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Reconstruction:Proto-Italic/-im&action=edit&redlink=1 *-im]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="ann-pos">emphatic marker</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span> (whence Sabellic ''*-om'', Oscan <em class="Ital mention" lang="osc">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%90%8C%9D%F0%90%8C%94%F0%90%8C%9D%F0%90%8C%83%F0%90%8C%96%F0%90%8C%8C&action=edit&redlink=1 𐌝𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="mention-tr tr Latn" lang="osc-Latn">ísídum</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span>, <em class="Ital mention" lang="osc">[https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%F0%90%8C%84%F0%90%8C%94%F0%90%8C%9D%F0%90%8C%83%F0%90%8C%96%F0%90%8C%8C&action=edit&redlink=1 𐌄𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌]</em> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span class="mention-tr tr Latn" lang="osc-Latn">esídum</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span>), from <span class="etyl">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language Proto-Indo-European]</span> <em class="Latn mention" lang="ine-pro">*im</em> (whence also Old Latin <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/im#Latin im]</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/em#Latin em]</em>), accusative singular of <em class="Latn mention" lang="ine-pro">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/%C3%A9y *éy]</em> (so both parts are from the same source). The ''s'' was lost and the ''i'' lengthened by [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/compensatory_lengthening compensatory lengthening].<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/idem#cite_note-3 [2]]</sup></p><p>When <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Latin is]</em>' ablative cases ''eōd'', ''eād'' became ''eō'', ''eā'', ''idem'''s ablative true forms ''eōd-em'', ''eād-em'' were interpreted as ''eō-dem'', ''eā-dem''. The neuter nominative singular ''id-em'' is natural and gives earlier ''emem'' (= later ''eundem''). The new marker ''-dem'' then served to create <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/totidem#Latin totidem]</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tantumdem#Latin tantumdem]</em>, <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ibidem#Latin ibīdem]</em>, etc. Compare <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tamen#Latin tam-en]</em> with its later doublet: <em class="Latn mention" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tandem#Latin tan-dem]</em> (← *''tam-dem'').</p>
 
=== <span id="Pronunciation_6">Pronunciation</span> ===
Wenn [[is'|is]]' Ablativfälle ''eōd'', ''eād'' zu ''eō'', ''eā'', ''idems'' wurden, wurden ablative wahre Formen eōd-em, eād-em als eō-dem, eā-dem interpretiert. Der neutrale Nominativ Singular id-em ist natürlich und ergibt früher emem (= später eundem). Der neue Marker -dem diente dann zur Bildung von totidem, tantumdem, ibīdem usw. Vergleiche [[tamen|tam-en]] mit seinem späteren Dublett: [[tandem|tan-dem]] (← *tam-dem).
'''
 
<span class="etymwb-headword"><span class="etymwb-orth"><span ></span></span></span>'''
Aussprache
*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Latin Classical]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA]<sup>([https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_pronunciation key])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈiː.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪ɛ̃ˑ]</span>'''
 
*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[[wikipedia:Classical_Latin|Classical]]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [[wikt:Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet|IPA]]<sup>([[wikt:Appendix:Latin_pronunciation|key]])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈiː.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪ɛ̃ˑ]</span>'''
*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_phonology_and_orthography#Ecclesiastical_pronunciation modern Italianate Ecclesiastical]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA]<sup>([https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_pronunciation key])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈi.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪em]</span>'''
*'''<span class="ib-brac">(</span><span class="ib-content">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_phonology_and_orthography#Ecclesiastical_pronunciation modern Italianate Ecclesiastical]</span><span class="ib-brac">)</span> [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:International_Phonetic_Alphabet IPA]<sup>([https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Latin_pronunciation key])</sup>: <span class="IPA">/ˈi.dem/</span>, <span class="IPA">[ˈiːd̪em]</span>'''


=== <span id="Pronoun_4">Pronoun</span> ===
Pronomen
<p><span class="headword-line"><strong class="Latn headword" lang="la">īdem</strong> (''feminine'' <strong class="Latn" lang="la">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eadem#Latin eadem]</strong>, ''neuter'' <strong class="Latn" lang="la"><strong class="selflink">idem</strong></strong>)</span>; ''[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#demonstrative demonstrative] pronoun (with ''m'' optionally → ''n'' in compounds) with an [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#indeclinable indeclinable] portion''</p>
 
#the [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/same#English same] <span class="HQToggle">[ quotations ▼]</span>
īdem (feminin eadem, Neutrum idem); Demonstrativpronomen (mit m optional → n in Komposita) mit einem nicht deklinierbaren Teil
 
# das Gleiche


==== <span id="Declension">Declension</span> ====
==== <span id="Declension">Declension</span> ====

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i--dem Vorlage:lat. "ist sich"; "selbst, dasselbe, derselbe, dieselbe"; alat. id, ea, is "ist" + alat. im, em, dt- "-isch"

Von uital. *izdim; äquivalent zu „er“ + uital. *-im (hervorhebende Markierung) (daher Sabellic *-om, Oscan 𐌝𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (ísídum), 𐌄𐌔𐌝𐌃𐌖𐌌 (esídum)), von uig. *im (woher auch alat. im, em), Akkusativ Singular von *éy (also stammen beide Teile aus derselben Quelle). Das -s- ging verloren und das i- wurde durch kompensatorische Verlängerung verlängert.

Wenn is' Ablativfälle eōd, eād zu eō, eā, idems wurden, wurden ablative wahre Formen eōd-em, eād-em als eō-dem, eā-dem interpretiert. Der neutrale Nominativ Singular id-em ist natürlich und ergibt früher emem (= später eundem). Der neue Marker -dem diente dann zur Bildung von totidem, tantumdem, ibīdem usw. Vergleiche tam-en mit seinem späteren Dublett: tan-dem (← *tam-dem).

Aussprache

Pronomen

īdem (feminin eadem, Neutrum idem); Demonstrativpronomen (mit m optional → n in Komposita) mit einem nicht deklinierbaren Teil

  1. das Gleiche

Declension

Irregular declension. Similar to the declension of is, ea, id. Demonstrative pronoun (with m optionally → n in compounds) with an indeclinable portion.

Number Singular Plural
Case / Gender Masculine Feminine Neuter Masculine Feminine Neuter
Nominative īdem eadem idem īdem1 eaedem eadem
Genitive eiusdem
ejusdem
eōrundem
eōrumdem
eundem
eumdem
eārundem
eārumdem
eōrundem
eōrumdem
eundem
eumdem
Dative eīdem2
e͡idem
ēīdem
eīdem2
e͡idem
ēīdem
eaedem
eīdem2
e͡idem
ēīdem
eīsdem1
iīsdem
īsdem
eīsdem1
iīsdem
īsdem
eābusdem
eīsdem1
iīsdem
īsdem
Accusative eundem
eumdem
eandem
eamdem
idem eōsdem eāsdem eadem
Ablative eōdem eādem eōdem eīsdem1
iīsdem
īsdem

1The nom./dat./abl. plural forms regularly developed into a monosyllable /iː(s)/, with later remodelling - compare the etymology of deus. This /iː/ was normally spelled as EI during and as II after the Republic; a disyllabic iī, spelled II, Iꟾ, appears in Silver Age poetry, while disyllabic eīs is only post-Classical. Other spellings include EEI(S), EIEI(S), IEI(S).
2The dat. singular is found spelled EIEI (here represented as ēī) and scanned as two longs in Plautus, but also as a monosyllable. The latter is its normal scansion in Classical. Other spellings include EEI, IEI.